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downlink_tone [2019/02/10 22:51]
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downlink_tone [2019/03/09 16:37]
KD6KPC [Why Program a Downlink Tone]
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 The tone system can also be applied to the downlink tone to limit interference and noise on the user's radio. There are many sources of noise that can break the set squelch threshold, even though the repeater is not transmitting. Although the radio will still internally "hear" the noise, it will not open the squelch and transfer the audio to the speaker until the proper tone has been received.  The tone system can also be applied to the downlink tone to limit interference and noise on the user's radio. There are many sources of noise that can break the set squelch threshold, even though the repeater is not transmitting. Although the radio will still internally "hear" the noise, it will not open the squelch and transfer the audio to the speaker until the proper tone has been received. 
  
-Not all repeaters use a downlink tone. If a user sets tone squelch in their radio on a tone that is not being tramsmitted by the repeater, the squelch will never open and the user will never hear a transmission. Also, repeaters may not transmit the same tone that is used to receive (uplink). This is called "split-toning." One should not make any assumptions as to whether or not a repeater is transmitting a tone and what the tone could.+Not all repeaters use a downlink tone. If a user sets tone squelch in their radio on a tone that is not being transmitted by the repeater, the squelch will never open and the user will never hear a transmission. Also, repeaters may not transmit the same tone that is used to receive (uplink). This is called "split-toning." One should not make any assumptions as to whether or not a repeater is transmitting a tone and what the tone could.
  
-To reduce confusion as to which tone is being referenced in terms of a paired frequency set (duplex with separate input and output frequencies, as repeaters typically use, the downlink tone refers to the tone that the repeater is transmitting on the [[downlink_frequency|downlink frequency]]. If a user programs this feature into their radio, it is often known as "Tone Squelch." It is not required that a user radio program this tone to receive the repeater's downlink frequency.+Downlink tone is not a term that is recognized by most amateurs and you probably won't see it in many radio manuals. Although, Yaesu tends to use the term. It's even been discussed on [[https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/8wq967/repeater_downlink_tone/|Reddit]]. To reduce confusion as to which tone is being referenced in terms of a paired frequency set (duplex with separate input and output frequencies, as repeaterstypically use, the downlink tone refers to the tone that the repeater is transmitting on the [[downlink_frequency|downlink frequency]]. If a user programs this feature into their radio, it is often known as "Tone Squelch." It is not required that a user radio program this tone to receive the repeater's downlink frequency.
  
 Confusion sometimes occurs when it is not known from which radio, the user's or the repeater's, that is being requested. Usually, it seems to get turned around when a repeater owner enters that data. Many repeater coordination councils request the repeater's tones in terms of the repeater's transmit and receive tones, which are opposite from the user radio's on a duplex system. Confusion sometimes occurs when it is not known from which radio, the user's or the repeater's, that is being requested. Usually, it seems to get turned around when a repeater owner enters that data. Many repeater coordination councils request the repeater's tones in terms of the repeater's transmit and receive tones, which are opposite from the user radio's on a duplex system.
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 RepeaterBook enters and displays data from the perspective of the remote (user) radio. RepeaterBook enters and displays data from the perspective of the remote (user) radio.
  
 +==== Why Program a Downlink Tone ====
  
 +If a repeater has an uplink tone, you must enter it to access the repeater. But, if you don't program a downlink tone (often called a decode tone) into your radio, you can still hear the repeater uninhibited. In fact, many repeaters do not transmit a downlink tone. So why bother to program one in if you can hear the repeater without it? 
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 +The reason why is because you can hear //everything else//, too. 
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 +Especially in urban areas, if a lot of RF noise is generated. This elevated noise can produce signals with enough strength to deactivate the squelch on your radio. So, you elevate the squelch threshold, which works until you are in the fringe areas of the repeater and you need to lower the squelch threshold. Sometimes, the RF noise can come in full scale. These "birdies" can sound like analog paging towers and can be caused by mixing with the intermediate frequency of your receiver. These birdies do not transmit a CTCSS tone.
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 +When you program a downlink tone, you ensure that the only signal that can break the squelch on your radio is a signal that is carrying that tone. RF noise and birdies won't be carrying the tone. It will also filter out distant repeaters on the same frequency, as long as they are not transmitting the same tone. Think of it as preventing interference from activating the speaker on your radio. Added bonus, especially when scanning, you will have a quieter radio and won't have to bump the up/down key so often to get it to release on a noisy channel. And. many repeaters do not transmit the CTCSS tone when the repeater is identifying. 
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 +Refer to the Repeaterbook database to see if the repeater is transmitting a downlink tone. If you set your radio to encode and decode tones when no downlink tone is being transmitted, you will not hear audio from the repeater at all.
 ==== CTCSS (Continuous Tone-Coded Squelch System) Codes ==== ==== CTCSS (Continuous Tone-Coded Squelch System) Codes ====
 All tones are in Hz. All tones are in Hz.
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